Should you be “friends first” when dating?

A client of mine said that he had a crush on someone from his tennis class and asked me if he should be “friends first” with her before asking her out. This got me wondering.

Should you be “friends first” before trying to pursue someone romantically?

I searched around for an answer and got a lot of good points for both sides. Some good arguments in favor of being “friends first” are:

  • Being friends means you already have a great foundation for a relationship
  • Women often say that guys are interested in “one thing” so being her friend first proves that you’re not just trying to get into her pants
  • She says she wants to be friends first before dating
  • Everyone wants a significant other that you can also be best friends with

There were also some good arguments against being friends first, such as:

  • You put your friendship in jeopardy if the relationship doesn’t work out
  • Someone might swoop in and steal her if you spend too much time being friends
  • She might feel duped if you express romantic feelings and she thought you just wanted to be friends

Perhaps the best and most famous summarization of the debate comes from the sitcom Friends:

Fun fact: this is actually the origin of the term “friend zone”

By being friends first, are you laying the foundation for a relationship? Or to priesthood?

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How to flirt with women as an introvert

Most flirting advice misses the mark for introverts. Here’s why.

What comes to mind when you think of the term, “flirting”? You probably think of things like winking, furtive glances, small touches with plausible deniability, innuendo, or double entendres. You know…the kind of things people might do in the bar & club scene.

playful flirt sideways glance
A playful sideways glance you might see in the bar & club scene

This always scared as an introvert back when I was looking for love because:

  1. Those types of behaviors always felt “rude” to me as a gentle, introverted soul
  2. Bars & clubs were among the least enjoyable places for me, up there with the DMV and the doctor’s office

Would I simply have to adopt a bunch of new behaviors that felt unnatural to me so I could find love? Or was I doomed to stay single forever?

The good news is I didn’t have to use those flirting tactics associated with the bar & club scene. Like, at all. Turns out those behaviors described above are only one style of flirting – and science says there are five distinct types (Playful, Physical, Polite, Sincere, and Traditional).

Those bar & club flirting tactics described above are also the ones that were LEAST likely to result in a long-term relationship (only around 12 percent according to Dr. Jeffrey Hall). The flirting styles that were MOST likely to result in a long-term relationship, on the other hand, are the ones that introverts naturally gravitate to!

There’s a “4-step Flirting Process for Introverts” that I recommend. I can vouch for this process because it’s the EXACT one I used to win over my wife! It goes like this.

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How to date as an Asian man, with Ruby Love

Meet Ruby Love. She’s a professional dating coach who runs ‘Good Gentleman’ and has been described as a modern-day Asian Female Hitch. She helps introverted and inexperienced men find quality women, without changing who they are. Her work centers around helping them see they got what it takes, and to find confidence in who they already are and working off of that.

Ruby Love, your "modern-day Asian Female Hitch"

Ruby and I held a Q&A session where I asked her several questions submitted by my readers about how introverted men can find love. One of the questions sent in blew me away and I think it deserves its own post.

He asked:

What are your thoughts on discrimination around Asians when it comes to dating? How do you handle that?

This is something that resonated with me because I’m a second generation Chinese American myself. I know what it’s like to have people treat you differently because of the shape of your eyes.

Here’s what our conversation looked like after I brought up the topic of dating for Asian men:

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How to meet women as an introvert, with Ruby Love

Our guest this week on Friday Romantics is Ruby Love from ‘Good Gentleman’. She’s a professional dating coach from San Diego who works with the good intentioned gentlemen who haven’t been given a chance. 

Ruby helps introverted and inexperienced men find quality women, without changing who they are. Her work centers around helping them see they got what it takes, and to find confidence in who they already are and working off of that.

Below, pay attention to how we talk about:

  • How introverts can start meeting women
  • The best online dating apps for introverts and why
  • How to be attractive if you don’t have a lot of dating experience
  • Ruby’s 3-step method to talk about yourself in a way that women LOVE
  • How to be interesting even if you’re more of a homebody
  • Writing an online profile that resonates with her (most men get this backwards!)

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“Quietly Romantic” is a Top 30 Introvert Blog in 2026!!

HOLY COW!! I got a message from FeedSpot that ‘Quietly Romantic’ has been recognized as one of Feedspot’s Top 30 Introvert Blogs on the web!!

I’m flattered but…I didn’t get here on my own.

It’s only because of readers like YOU that my platform has grown to what it is today. Back when I first launched ‘Quietly Romantic’ back in 2019, the only people I had reading my blog was an audience of 2 people. Just a couple of my friends.

My entire readership back in 2019 fit on a single screenshot. Not even my girlfriend at the time read my stuff!

Those 2 nerds were incredibly supportive, but they could only bring me so far.

That’s why I’m MASSIVELY grateful to readers like you.

Because of people like YOU who read my stuff over the years, ‘Quietly Romantic’ has grown into one of the best resources on the web for introverted men looking for wholesome love advice. My dream has always been for this platform to serve as a beacon against all the weird, manosphere, PUA advice out there. And to be a shining example of what positive masculinity looks like.

It’s only with YOUR support that I was able to make it this far. I’m incredibly humbled to be on your computer screen right now (…or tablet, smartphone, microwave, whatever you’re reading this on). It’s an honor to serve you.

In short,

Thank you!!

Humbled and grateful,
Steven Zawila from Quietly Romantic

P.S. Yes, that’s me in my pajamas. I was so thrilled when I received the notification from FeedSpot that I snapped this pic without changing into my clothes. Thanks again for reading!

How I personally flirt (seriously just do this if you don’t know how to flirt!!)

For a long time, I didn’t know how to flirt at all. I knew flirting was important because it shows her that you’re romantically interested, but I just had no idea how to do it. It was embarrassing for me because I had assumed that knowing how to flirt was something that everyone was naturally able to do.

Well, everyone except me that is.

Eventually, I came up with my own way of flirting that’s authentic to my own introverted self. It’s gotten me dates and meaningful relationships naturally without making me feel sleazy or like a pickup-artist. If you’re like my past self and you have no idea what flirting is or how to do it, then I’m going to show you in detail how I personally flirt.

Just in case you were too embarrassed to ask.

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How to get women to approach YOU (yes, really!)

I almost couldn’t believe the words I was reading.

Some time ago, I was coaching a client named Hayden who told me that he’d never been in a relationship before. He’d never been on a date either. In fact, he’d never even asked a woman out since grade school because the last time he tried, he ended up getting badly bullied by his classmates. That experience followed him for a long time and left him terrified of asking anyone out again, even throughout his adult life.

Fast forward a few weeks, and Hayden tells me that women are now approaching him and asking him out on dates! Even more, it didn’t take any drastic changes such as becoming filthy rich or super-ripped overnight. He just made a few tweaks to his daily life.

So, you can imagine my surprise when he told me this!!

Here’s what he did:

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A gamer’s guide to being confident around women

Let’s talk about confidence.

Women always say that they love confidence in guys. As I was growing up, it always felt like women would always go for the guys who were more confident and outgoing. Whenever I had a crush on someone, most of the time I would be too scared to ask her out. My mind would tell me things like “she probably already has a boyfriend,” and if I did try to talk to her then I would become super awkward and would barely even be able to say anything.

This makes it especially difficult because as a guy, you’re the one who’s expected to be the initiator. You’re the one who’s expected to approach her, begin the conversation, ask her out, and so on. This also means that you’re the one who risks being rejected every step of the way. If I tried to ask her out, I would never have enough confidence while talking to her to get her to out with me. And when she rejected me, this lowered my confidence even more and made it even harder to talk to the next person that I liked.

For guys that have had relationships in the past or who often go on dates, it’s easier to be confident because the fact that they’ve had a girlfriend before or have been dating a lot of women provides a confidence and self-esteem boost. They know that they’re attractive already. But what about those of us who have never had a girlfriend before or who struggle to even get a first date?

How are we supposed to be confident then?

I’m not going to give you some generic advice such as “man up” or “grow a pair.” You’ve probably already heard that enough times already. Instead, I’m going to show you how I learned to be confident. There are three steps, and along the way we’re going to gain the Triforce of Wisdom, Courage, and Power and become the hero that Hyrule needs.

Are you ready? I hope so. Zelda is counting on you!

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The “best” way to flirt — according to science

How do you tell the difference if she’s flirting with you or just being polite? I was always horrible at that.

My friends would sometimes tell me that “such-and-such” had a crush on me, or that another woman I was talking to actually was trying to hit on me, but I never really believed them. I thought my friends were just trying to be nice and “psyche me up”. It just seemed like the women I was talking to were simply being friendly.

Looking back I think a lot of it was just fear of rejection. I would psyche myself out of it and tell myself “she’s probably just being friendly”, “she’s probably not interested”, or “she probably already has a boyfriend” even when in hindsight it was obvious that she was flirting.

  • One time, a female friend texted me at 10pm saying she was going through a rough break-up and asked me if I was free that night. I told her “No, it’s late. I’m going to bed. See you later.”
  • Another female friend invited me to her apartment for board games, cooked dinner for me, and then spelled out “want sex” on a Scrabble board. My response? “Okay, that’s +19 points for you.”

And that’s why I was single for so long…

So, how do you know when someone is flirting with you? And how do you flirt back?

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Don’t know how to flirt? Try doing this!!

So, was there a class on flirting that I missed when I was younger? It seemed like everyone else already knew how to do it and get into relationships. And whenever I tried to get advice, all I heard was “learn to flirt” with no explanation.

Today I have both a long answer and short answer for you. The long answer is quite technical and scientific…but it’s also a great read so I’d recommend checking it out when you got a sec.

And for the short answer—

I’m going to do something I don’t usually do and recommend a specific flirting technique that you can use today from former-pickup-artist Mark Manson’s book Models called “cold reading”.

Now, I have A LOT of contempt for PUA and it’s not something I would typically touch with a 10-foot pole. It’s also been scientifically proven that everyone’s flirting style is also different, so recommending a specific flirting technique for everyone—especially one from the world of PUA—seems like a weird thing for me to do.

So, what gives?

I’ve previously written that dating advice which appears independently in multiple places—especially outside of the realm of dating advice—is generally worth following. Cold reading happens to fit that bill. In the book Never Split the Difference, Chris Voss describes a similar technique he calls “labeling” or “tactical empathy” that he used to negotiate with hostage-takers back when he worked for the FBI.

You might even see this sort of technique in the world of competitive gaming (yes, really) where it’s called a “hard read” or “reading your opponent”. I’ve done it myself in many online competitions.

Seem like something worth knowing? Let’s get into it!

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